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Three Stages to Membership of the

Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE)

Anyone who wants to become a professionally qualified member of ICE must satisfy the requirements

of the three stages to membership:

1. EDUCATIONAL BASE

1) An academic qualification is recognised as eligible for ICE membership:

I. If it is listed in the FEANI index (www.feani.org). FEANI is the European Federation of

National Engineering Associations, which aims to facilitate the mutual recognition of

engineering qualifications in Europe and attributes the Eur Ing title to professional

engineers.

II. If it is listed under the Washington Accord for Chartered Engineer (CEng) or the Sydney

Accord for Incorporated Engineer (IEng). These are agreements between the bodies

responsible for accrediting professional engineering degree programmes in each of the

signatory countries.

III. If it has been accredited by the Joint Board of Moderators (formed by four UK professional

engineering bodies) or EURACE (a framework for the accreditation of European

Engineering programmes).

2) The majority of Polish universities and qualifications are listed in the FEANI index so will be

eligible for ICE membership. The length of the course will affect the grade of membership that

can be applied for:

I. 5 year degrees meet the educational base for Chartered Engineer (CEng) - ie a five year

Magister taken before 2003 or a Bachelor plus Master taken after 2003.

II. 3 year degrees (Bachelor) taken after 2003 meet the educational base for Incorporated

Engineer (IEng).

3) Where a qualification is not recognised as eligible for ICE membership in one of the ways outlined

in point 1), it will be individually assessed by ICE’s Academic Qualifications Panel.

2. INITIAL PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT (IPD)

1) All ICE applicants must undertake a period of training or work experience in order to be able to

demonstrate the attributes required for ICE membership (please refer to Appendix A).

2) Where an applicant is qualified for the same profession in a country where the profession is

regulated, evidence of professional qualification must be provided from the competent body.

Therefore all Polish Civil Engineers wishing to become members of ICE via the European

Diplomate route must be registered with PIIB (

Polska Izba Inzynierow Budownictwa, the Polish

Chamber of Engineers).

Educational Base

The achievement of the

required academic

qualifications

Initial Professional

Development (IPD)

The completion of a period of

responsible work experience

under guidance and

decreasing supervision

Professional Review

The successful completion

of a Professional Review

or, where applicable, the

application approval by an

ICE Panel

Continuing Professional Development (CPD)

The systematic maintenance, improvement and broadening of knowledge, skills and

competence, which must continue throughout the life of a professionally qualified member

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3. PROFESSIONAL REVIEW

1) Most ICE applicants are required to demonstrate that they possess the required attributes by

sitting a Professional Review, which consists of an interview, presentation and written reports.

2) Those applying via the European Diplomate route are required to demonstrate that they possess

the required attributes by submitting evidence of this with their application. This is assessed by

an ICE Panel.

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Applying to the Institution of Civil Engineers (ICE) under the

European Directive on the recognition of professional qualifications

A. Principles of the Directive

1) The right to live and work in another EU Member State is a fundamental right for every citizen

of the European Union. In order to facilitate the mobility of professionals, the EU has

estalbished legislation to ensure that professional qualifications are recognised on a mutual

basis between all Member States, because certain professions or titles are protected in some

EU countries. This is covered by Directive 2005/36/EC, which includes the previous Directive

89/48/EEC.

2) The basic principle of mutual recognition is that, if you are entitled to practise a regulated

profession in your own country, you should be able to practise the same profession in any

other EU country and use the appropriate title. Even if your profession is not regulated in your

home country, you should still be able to practise in a Member State where it is regulated, as

long as you can provide proof of satisfactory education and professional experience.

B. Comparison between UK and Poland

1) The profession of civil engineering is regulated in Poland and all those wishing to work as a

civil engineer must be registered with Polska Izba Inzynierow Budownictwa (PIIB – the Polish

Chamber of Engineers).

2) The profession of civil engineering is unregulated in the UK, therefore registration with ICE is

not obligatory and civil engineers from any country can work in the UK without being an ICE

member.

3) Some employers may, however, require that its employees are Chartered members of ICE, as

this proves they have reached a high standard of education and experience. For this reason,

Polish civil engineers working in the UK may find it desirable or necessary to become an ICE

member.

4) ICE membership also enables the member to use the post nominal letters of CEng or IEng

(Chartered Engineer and Incorporated Engineer), which are awarded by the Engineering

Council UK. These titles are deemed to be protected titles for the purposes of the EU

legislation, and therefore ICE has a separate route to membership for civil engineers who are

professionally qualified within the EU, which is called the European Diplomate route.

5) The European Diplomate route is the appropriate route to ICE membership for applications

from Polish Civil Engineers registered with PIIB.

C. Application process via the European Diplomate Route

1) Applications via the European Diplomate route are considered on a case by case basis.

2) ICE membership is not automatic

. The profession is not regulated in the UK and anyone can

work as a civil engineer without membership of ICE. ICE is therefore entitled to assess the

applicant’s academic qualifications and professional experience against its own standards and

criteria.

3) European Diplomate applicants are required to have the level of English necessary for

practising the profession of civil engineer in the UK.

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4) All European Diplomate applications are assessed by ICE’s Exemption and Recognition Panel,

which meets four times a year. Closing dates for the submission of applications and the Panel

meetings are available on ICE’s website: www.ice.org.uk/joining/joining_keydates.asp

5) Applicants are required to submit the following to ICE for assessment:

I. A completed application form ICE 3136

(from www.ice.org.uk/joining/joining_european.asp)

II. A detailed CV

III. Evidence that they meet the ICE member attributes

IV. Evidence of their academic qualifications

V. Membership certificate of their national competent body (ie PIIB)

VI. The application fee. In 2007 the fee is £200. All current fees are listed on:

www.ice.org.uk/joining/joining_fees.asp

6) Applicants will also be asked for a voluntary Development Action Plan and a statement in

support of the applicant from a Professional Engineer with knowledge of the applicant’s work.

These are to help the Panel in the assessment of the application, but the applicant can choose

whether or not to submit these with their application.

7) The outcome of the assessment will be notified by letter normally within two weeks of the

relevant Panel meeting.

8) In certain circumstances, the Panel may need to request further information from an

applicant if the evidence provided is not sufficient for them to assess whether the

applicant meets ICE’s attributes. In these cases the applicant will be informed of any

significant differences and what further evidence they need to supply. The applicant will

need to resubmit their application which will be assessed at the next available Panel

meeting.

9) If the Panel assesses that there is still a substantial difference in the applicant’s

knowledge and expertise compared with ICE attributes after the resubmission, they will

ask the applicant to take either an aptitude test or a period of adaptation in order to

address the substantial difference in knowledge and expertise. The period of adaptation

should allow the applicant to acquire the knowledge and skills required under the

guidance of a qualified member. It is the applicant’s choice whether to take the aptitude

test or the period of adaptation.

D. Forms and further information

1) Application forms and guidance on applying through the European Diplomate route are

downloadable from ICE’s website: www.ice.org.uk/joining/joining_european.asp

2) Any general enquiries on the European Diplomate route can be sent to Rebecca Webster,

International Membership Senior Executive, email rebecca.web[email protected]

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APPENDIX A

INSTITUTION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS - MEMBER ATTRIBUTES

• The interpretation of attributes 1 and 2 relate to your fields of work. You must demonstrate a

sound understanding of core engineering principles in those fields.

• Your level of attainment of attributes 3 to 9 will be judged with regard to their relative

importance within your fields of work.

• As a prospective ICE member, in order to fulfil your obligation to society and to meet the

requirements of Health, Safety and Welfare legislation you must have a sound knowledge and

understanding of the construction process together with the activities connected to it. You

must have an appreciation of and be able to identify and manage risks arising as a

consequence of your actions.

• For those whose experience includes the construction process, site experience will ordinarily

be required.

Attributes of a Chartered member of ICE (CEng MICE)

Attribute Group

Attributes to be

demonstrated for ICE

membership as Incorporated

Engineer (IEng MICE)

Additional attributes to be

demonstrated for ICE membership as

Chartered Engineer (CEng MICE)

1. Engineering

Knowledge and

Understanding

A Ability to maintain and

extend a sound theoretical

approach to the application of

technology in engineering

practice.

B Ability to use a sound

evidence- based approach to

problem solving and be able to

contribute to continuous

improvement.

C Ability to maintain and extend a

sound theoretical approach in enabling

the introduction and exploitation of

new and advancing technology.

D Ability to engage in the creative and

innovative development of engineering

technology and continuous

improvement systems.

2. Engineering

Application

A Ability to identify, review

and select techniques,

procedures and methods to

undertake engineering tasks.

B Ability to contribute to the

design and development of

engineering solutions.

C Ability to implement design

solutions and contribute to

their evaluation.

D Ability to conduct appropriate

research, and undertake design and

development of engineering solutions.

E Ability to implement design solutions

and evaluate their effectiveness.

3. Management &

Leadership

A Ability to plan for effective

project implementation.

B Ability to manage the

planning and organization of

tasks, people and resources.

C Ability to manage teams and

develop staff to meet changing

technical and managerial

needs.

D Ability to manage quality

processes

E Ability to plan direct and control

tasks, people and resources

F Ability to lead teams and develop

staff to meet changing technical and

managerial needs.

G Commitment to continuous

improvement through quality

management

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4. Independent

Judgement &

Responsibility

A Ability to identify the limits of

personal knowledge and

skills.

B Ability to exercise sound

independent engineering

judgment and take

responsibility

C Ability to identify the limits of a

team’s skill and knowledge.

D Ability to exercise sound holistic

independent judgment and take

responsibility

5. Commercial Ability

A Ability to prepare and

control budgets.

B A sound knowledge of

statutory and commercial

frameworks within own area of

responsibility.

C A high level of commercial and

contractual understanding and an

ability to use it within own area of

responsibility.

6. Health Safety &

Welfare

A A sound knowledge of

legislation, hazards & safe

systems of work.

B Ability to manage risks.

C Ability to manage health,

safety and welfare within own

area of responsibility.

D Commitment to leading continuous

improvement in health, safety & welfare.

7. Sustainable

Development

A A sound knowledge of

sustainable development best

practice.

B Ability to manage

engineering activities that

contribute to sustainable

development

C Committed to leading continuous

improvement in sustainable

development.

8. Interpersonal skills

and Communication

A Ability to communicate well

with others at all levels.

B Ability to discuss ideas and

plans competently and with

confidence.

C Personal and social skills.

D Ability to communicate new concepts

and ideas to technical and non-

technical colleagues.

9. Professional

Commitment

A Understanding and compliance with the ICE Code of Conduct

B Commitment to current and future CPD of self and others

C Support of ICE activities.

D A personal commitment to professional standards, recognising

obligations to society, the profession and the environment.